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Jon Krakauer’s literary reputation rests on insightful chronicles of lives conducted at the outer limits He now shifts his focus from extremes of physical adventure to extremes of religious belief within our own borders taking readers inside isolated American communities where some 40000 Mormon Fundamentalists still practice polygamy Defy. I read this book for the book club at my local library Afterwards I felt indignant confused intrigued and disgusted about all forms of faith So I sincerely hoped that a Saint or two would show up at the book club meeting to nullify my extremely negative view of the church Alas no LDS believers showed so I am left to my own conclusions about the book and faith in general Here are some of my conclusions and uestions after reading this sprawling fascinating account of the history of polygamy and violence within the Church of Later Day SaintsThere is a certain appeal to having no choices Sometimes religion is comforting because obedience to a provided list of rules removes personal responsibility Strict adherence to a religion removes personal doubt When you believe so fully in a church you are no longer forced to uestion your own actions after all if you carefully follow the directions of your spiritual leaders you will gain your own paradise regardless of what your personal conscious says about right or wrong This leads me into my next point I will never be a Mormon for many reasons First in the Mormon faith if you realize the highest echelon of Mormonism you will get your own planet to run after you die If you're a man that is If you're a woman you can join your man on his planet if he invites you No no no Please I deserve my own planet Wives and children are property at least in the fundamentalists sects of Mormonism I am a person an event not chattel Second remind me to never join a religion that condones killing See blood atonement as typified in the Mountain Meadows Massacre Third I don't want to be a believer in a faith that tells me I have to earn love least of all God's We are all holy I think We all have goodness and grace within us no matter how many veils of earthly existence have descended Finally I will never follow a religion that doesn't encourage me to uestion everything Information and education are my life blood I must be able to use my brain to get closer to God Otherwise why the heck would she give it to meSo now that we have the comments specific to the Mormon faith out of the way let's move on to the uestions about faith in general I heartily recommend this book to anyone who is going through a personal crisis It will boil your blood and make you think What could you want Here are my uestions1 Why does listening to the divine in each of us produce such different results It can lead to peace and pacifism or killing Who is speaking God or ego2 Is all fundementalism mired in violence or do certain faiths promote it 3 Does God always speak in King James' English It seems so according to the Book of Mormon4 Would all religions seem this crazy if we were only 200 years out and had intimate dirty details of each guru's life5 Is there anything inherently wrong with polygamy Do we have a gene for monogomy I don't care as long as no one gets hurt And marrying 13 year olds sometimes when they're your own daughter is inherently hurtful6 Is faith the opposite of reason Is education the cure for religion7Is religion a distraction from the humdrum of our everyday lives Opposite of BuddhismOk y'all sorry about the long review But seriously read the book It's excellently chilling and will keep you up late at night writing your comments furiously on post it notes At least that's what it did to me The Lean Marketplace: a Practical Guide to Building a Successful Online Marketplace Business reputation زندانی قلعه قهقهه rests on insightful chronicles of lives conducted at the outer limits He now shifts his focus from extremes of physical adventure to extremes of Neue Lebensansichten eines Katers. 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I Master Dogens Shobogenzo (Book 4) read this book for the book club at my local library Afterwards I felt indignant confused intrigued and disgusted about all forms of faith So I sincerely hoped that a Saint or two would show up at the book club meeting to nullify my extremely negative view of the church Alas no LDS believers showed so I am left to my own conclusions about the book and faith in general Here are some of my conclusions and uestions after The Collected Memoirs of Charles Willeford reading this sprawling fascinating account of the history of polygamy and violence within the Church of Later Day SaintsThere is a certain appeal to having no choices Sometimes When Mr. Darcy Met Lizzy religion is comforting because obedience to a provided list of Basic English Grammar Book 1 rules After the End removes personal Naja responsibility Strict adherence to a Safinat Al-Naja religion L'Histoire N 421 Juifs de Pologne Mars 2016 removes personal doubt When you believe so fully in a church you are no longer forced to uestion your own actions after all if you carefully follow the directions of your spiritual leaders you will gain your own paradise Yureka, tome 10 regardless of what your personal conscious says about Monster Box right or wrong This leads me into my next point I will never be a Mormon for many The Cast Iron Cookbook reasons First in the Mormon faith if you Collins World Wall Laminated Map realize the highest echelon of Mormonism you will get your own planet to One run after you die If you're a man that is If you're a woman you can join your man on his planet if he invites you No no no Please I deserve my own planet Wives and children are property at least in the fundamentalists sects of Mormonism I am a person an event not chattel Second Dark Clouds of the Morning remind me to never join a The Color of Bones religion that condones killing See blood atonement as typified in the Mountain Meadows Massacre Third I don't want to be a believer in a faith that tells me I have to earn love least of all God's We are all holy I think We all have goodness and grace within us no matter how many veils of earthly existence have descended Finally I will never follow a Enduring (The Dominion Saga: religion that doesn't encourage me to uestion everything Information and education are my life blood I must be able to use my brain to get closer to God Otherwise why the heck would she give it to meSo now that we have the comments specific to the Mormon faith out of the way let's move on to the uestions about faith in general I heartily Face Of The Waters recommend this book to anyone who is going through a personal crisis It will boil your blood and make you think What could you want Here are my uestions1 Why does listening to the divine in each of us produce such different العجوز التي حطمت القواعد results It can lead to peace and pacifism or killing Who is speaking God or ego2 Is all fundementalism mired in violence or do certain faiths promote it 3 Does God always speak in King James' English It seems so according to the Book of Mormon4 Would all Ideology and Power in the Viking and Middle Ages religions seem this crazy if we were only 200 years out and had intimate dirty details of each guru's life5 Is there anything inherently wrong with polygamy Do we have a gene for monogomy I don't care as long as no one gets hurt And marrying 13 year olds sometimes when they're your own daughter is inherently hurtful6 Is faith the opposite of Thirty-Two Going On Spinster (Spinster Series Book 1) reason Is education the cure for Brasso, Blanco and Bull religion7Is Virtual Encounters religion a distraction from the humdrum of our everyday lives Opposite of BuddhismOk y'all sorry about the long James, Ellen & David review But seriously 花君と恋する私 1 [Hana-kun to Koisuru Watashi 1] read the book It's excellently chilling and will keep you up late at night writing your comments furiously on post it notes At least that's what it did to me

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Iculously researched account of this appalling double murder Krakauer constructs a multi layered bone chilling narrative of messianic delusion polygamy savage violence and unyielding faith Along the way he uncovers a shadowy offshoot of America’s fastest growing religion and raises provocative uestions about the nature of religious belief. You know I probably shouldn't have read this directly after finishing In Cold Blood I'm not saying the combination brought out the homicidal psychotic in me but I did have to pay for stabbing the hell out of a turkey in the Albertson's meat section the other day Is there a stranger sect out there than the Mormons I mean golden plates lost tribes Nephites battling Lamanites Orrin Hatch Well yes I guess one look at Tom Cruise jumping up and down on Oprah's couch suggests that Scientology has a lot to answer for as well For that matter I've never understood how a burning bush speaks to someone Why a burning bush Why not say a burning acacia tree But if mainstream Mormonism is a little on the far out side then fundamentalist Mormonism sort of like regular Mormonism with fanaticism racism welfare cheating taking of wives and child rape is like the spastic uncle that mainstream Mormonism keeps in the wine cellar Thumping What thumping I didn't hear anything Did you hear anything honey I didn't hear anythingKrakauer does a fine job of interweaving Mormon history profiles of fundamentalist breakaway Mormon sects and the hideous gruesome story of the two God soaked fundamentalist brothers who slashed the throats of a young woman and her infant daughter He attempts to be as fair minded as possible about all these subjects while never neglecting to call a spade a spade Personally I would have used the word nutjob and charlatan a lot often and not just in connection with the fundamentalists but Krakauer makes a point of not passing judgment on the validity of firmly held religious beliefs I guess a book called Is the Entire State of Utah Out of Its Mind wouldn't sell In sum though Under the Banner of Heaven is as gripping and hard to put down as Krakauer's other fine books and offers a valuable insight into a strange deeply American phenomenon Recommended One small but not unimportant note Krakauer includes a final Author's Remarks section at the end of the book These remarks chiefly concern Krakauer's own attitudes toward religion and Mormonism as well as his intent in writing the book It's unfortunate that he added this postscript not because it's unwarranted but because a it's largely superfluous and b it rather ruins the picture perfect way the rest of the book ends Jon you had it in the bag man; all you had to do was dribble out the clock Everything in that postscript should be said in interviews Tempting Treasures researched account of this appalling double murder Krakauer constructs a multi layered bone chilling narrative of messianic delusion polygamy savage violence and unyielding faith Along the way he uncovers a shadowy offshoot of America’s fastest growing Mikrocontrollertechnik Mit Avr religion and Geschichte Der Hexenprozesse raises provocative uestions about the nature of People Centricity religious belief. You know I probably shouldn't have A Girls Guide to Vampires (Dark Ones read this directly after finishing In Cold Blood I'm not saying the combination brought out the homicidal psychotic in me but I did have to pay for stabbing the hell out of a turkey in the Albertson's meat section the other day Is there a stranger sect out there than the Mormons I mean golden plates lost tribes Nephites battling Lamanites Orrin Hatch Well yes I guess one look at Tom Cruise jumping up and down on Oprah's couch suggests that Scientology has a lot to answer for as well For that matter I've never understood how a burning bush speaks to someone Why a burning bush Why not say a burning acacia tree But if mainstream Mormonism is a little on the far out side then fundamentalist Mormonism sort of like Murderers, Scoundrels and Ragamuffins (The First Ward, regular Mormonism with fanaticism The Labors of Heracles racism welfare cheating taking of wives and child 7 Myths About Women and Work rape is like the spastic uncle that mainstream Mormonism keeps in the wine cellar Thumping What thumping I didn't hear anything Did you hear anything honey I didn't hear anythingKrakauer does a fine job of interweaving Mormon history profiles of fundamentalist breakaway Mormon sects and the hideous gruesome story of the two God soaked fundamentalist brothers who slashed the throats of a young woman and her infant daughter He attempts to be as fair minded as possible about all these subjects while never neglecting to call a spade a spade Personally I would have used the word nutjob and charlatan a lot often and not just in connection with the fundamentalists but Krakauer makes a point of not passing judgment on the validity of firmly held Tales Of Bygone New England religious beliefs I guess a book called Is the Entire State of Utah Out of Its Mind wouldn't sell In sum though Under the Banner of Heaven is as gripping and hard to put down as Krakauer's other fine books and offers a valuable insight into a strange deeply American phenomenon Recommended One small but not unimportant note Krakauer includes a final Author's Remarks section at the end of the book These Capacities, Capacity Constraints and Capacity Reserves of Airports, Today and in the Future remarks chiefly concern Krakauer's own attitudes toward Simon and the Messy World religion and Mormonism as well as his intent in writing the book It's unfortunate that he added this postscript not because it's unwarranted but because a it's largely superfluous and b it Tattered Wings rather The Cambridge Ancient History, Vol 14 ruins the picture perfect way the Trailer Park Stories rest of the book ends Jon you had it in the bag man; all you had to do was dribble out the clock Everything in that postscript should be said in interviews

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Ing both civil authorities and the Mormon establishment in Salt Lake City the renegade leaders of these Taliban like theocracies are zealots who answer only to GodAt the core of Krakauer’s book are brothers Ron and Dan Lafferty who insist they received a commandment from God to kill a blameless woman and her baby girl Beginning with a met. 40 to 45 stars For non fiction this book had me absolutely riveted from the very beginning This true crime narative has three main themes all of which I think Krakauer accomplishes extremely well First this is a true crime story of the brutal double murder of Brenda Lafferty and her 15 month old baby girl at the hands Ron and Dan Lafferty the older brothers of Brenda’s husband Second is a survey of the origin and early history of Mormonism and the basic doctrines of the Mormon faith Third the book details the deep divide and animosity between the Mormon church and the various fundamentalist Mormon sects including the one to which the murderers belonged These three story lines are not broken down into sections but are interwoven throughout the book However for simplicity I will address each separately THE MURDERSOn July 24 1984 Brenda and Eric Lafferty wife and daughter of Allen Lafferty were brutally murdered by Allen’s older brothers Ronald and Dan Lafferty The book begins with an account of the murders and several of the newspaper articles that covered it and then layers in the story of Ron and Dan and the events leading up to the killing throughout the rest of the book One uote from the book that still haunts me occurs in the first few pages when Dan describes the murder of his 15 months old niece He describes how he found his fifteen month old niece Erica standing in her crib smiling up at him ‘I spoke to her for a minute’ Lafferty recalls ‘I told her I’m not sure what this is all about but apparently it’s God’s will that you leave this world; perhaps we can talk about it later’ And then he ended her life with a ten inch boning knife For me as a father of two little girls this is one of the most disturbing passages I have ever read THE HISTORY OF MORMONISM The second component of the book is a fairly detailed overview of the founding and early history of the Mormon church I am not joking when I say that before I began reading this book almost everything I knew about the Mormon faith came from watching South Park I thought the early history of the church was fascinating especially the descriptions of the tension and actual armed conflicts between LDS supporters and 1 Missouri residents and militia in 1838 aka the Missouri Mormon War 2 the Illinois Militia in 1844 aka Illinois Mormon War and 3 the US Government in 1857 58 aka the Utah War For those not familiar with these conflicts or this period of American History I think you will find it very interesting FUNDAMENTALIST MORMONISMThe most compelling aspect of the book for me was the description of various fundamentalist Mormon sects including their basic beliefs and the amount of influence and control they maintain over their followers Krakauer goes on to describe the deep animosity that the fundamentalists have for the mainstream Mormon church and vice versa While there are many points of contention between the two the major theological difference is over polygamy which the fundamentalists believe is a sacred duty reuired by God He states in the Prologue of the book Mormon authorities treat the fundamentalists as they would a crazy uncle they try to keep the polygs hidden in the attic safely out of sight but the fundamentalists always seem to be sneaking out in public at inopportune moment to create unsavory scenes embarrassing the entire LDS clan Krakauer also describes how the fundamentalist Mormons view the US Government as Satan and believe that stealing from the government either in the form of educational grants for cities which they control or in the form of welfare for their numerous wives and children is their sacred duty He says “Fundamentalists call defrauding the government ‘bleeding the beast’ and regard it as a virtuous act” For example the largest fundamentalist sect is the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints also known as the United Effort Plan UEP At the time the book was written the UEP was run by Rulon T Jeffs aka Uncle Rulon out of the town of Colorado City AZ on the border between Arizona and Utah Colorado City has a population of about 5000 all of which belong to the UEP and the town gets between 4Millon and 6Million a year in public education funding and other grants The power base of the town stems from Uncle Rulon who had approximately 75 wives many as young as 13 14 and over 65 children BTW no member of the town is able to watch TV read a newspaper or have any interaction with the outside world FINAL THOUGHTSI thought this was a compelling read Krakauer does a great job of layering in a ton of interesting background while keeping the narrative of the events leading up the brutal murders moving forward I was impressed with how well Krakauer avoided letting the narrative get bogged down although that could just be my fascination with the subject matter HIGHLY RECOMMENDED