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Peloponnesian War

SUMMARY Peloponnesian War

Course Lecture Titles1 Thucydides and the Peloponnesian War 2 The Greek Way of War 3 SpartaPerceptions and Prejudices 4 Sparta and Her Allies 5 The Athenian Democracy 6 Athens and the Navy 7 Victory over Persia 490479 BC 8 Athens or SpartaA uestion of Leadership 9 Cimonian Imperialism 10 Sparta after the Persian Wars 11 The First Peloponnesian War 12 The Thirty Years' Peace 13 Triumph of the Radical De. So good There's about Thucydides and his world here than one may likely to ever care to

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New Leaders and New Strategies 26 The Peace of Nicias 27 Collapse of the Peace of Nicias 28 From Mantinea to Sicily 418415 BC 29 Sparta Athens and the Western Greeks 30 The Athenian Expedition to Sicily 31 Alcibiades and Sparta 414412 BC 32 Conspiracy and Revolution 411 BC 33 Alcibiades and Athens 411406 BC 34 The Defeat of Athens 406404 BC 35 Sparta's Bitter Victory 36 Lessons of the Peloponnesian Wa. 36 30 minute audio lectures along with a 272 page syllabus Thucydides an Athenian genera

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Mocracy 14 From Delian League to Athenian Empire 15 Economy and Society of Imperial Athens 16 Athens School of Greece 17 Crisis in Corcyra 435432 BC 18 Outbreak of the Peloponnesian War 19 Strategies and Stalemate 431429 BC 20 Athenian Victory in Northwest Greece 21 Imperial CrisisThe Chalcidice and Mytilene 22 Plague Fiscal Crisis and War 23 Demagogues and Stasis 24 Pylos 425 BCA Test of Leadership 25. A bit too pro Sparta but otherwise pretty good and detailed Under My Skin in Corcyra 435432 BC 18 Outbreak of the Peloponnesian War 19 Strategies and Stalemate 431429 BC 20 Athenian Victory Glazes Cone 6: 1240 C / 2264 F in Northwest Greece 21 Imperial CrisisThe Chalcidice and Mytilene 22 Plague Fiscal Crisis and War 23 Demagogues and Stasis 24 Pylos 425 BCA Test of Leadership 25. A bit too pro Sparta but otherwise pretty good and detailed

10 thoughts on “Peloponnesian War

  1. says:

    So good There's about Thucydides and his world here than one may likely to ever care to know Highly recommended

  2. says:

    The Peloponnesian War is a series of 36 lectures by Dr Kenneth Harl regarding the 5th century war between Athens and Sparta Dr Harl closely follows the eminent historian Thucydides in his timeline but also connects the war with other sources to what we commonly call the 'Classical Period or the Golden Age of Greece' between 500 and 300 BC Dr Harl’s lectures illustrate lessons for us today including 1 recognizing the importance of servant leadership as necessary to functioning democracies contrasting the leadership styles of Pericles and Alcibiades 2 knowing that even governments with strong democracies can degenerate into ‘Empire’ the slow evolution of the radical Athenian democracy from Delian League leader to the Athenian Empire; and 3 acknowledging the importance of Thucydides as the ‘pre eminent model historian’ and Greek academic culture that enabled his reflections While small in relative importance to the Persian Empire the conuests of Alexander and the rise and fall of the Roman Empire classical Greece has a special appeal to the modern West and especially sea faring Britain’s and Americans This is most likely due to the great liberty and experimentation with radical democracy and representative republics that went on among the Greek City states We find in Athenians a fierce determination to choose your own destiny an economy based on the sea and a love for academic and artistic pursuits When we look at the Greeks of the classical Age we see ourselves in many cases and Thucydides has done a great service to posterity by cataloguing the annals of the penultimate conflict of this era You can also make a case that this was a war like no other a war that has similarities not with World War II but like Vietnam the Irish Revolution the fights between Islamic governments and our own Civil War The Spartan and Athenians held so much the same their religion common ancestry but yet so much different democratic vs oligarchic sea faring vs land based free inuirers vs traditionalists As in our time with Vietnam and other minor conflicts the Athenians at one time thought their government superior so they devolved into ‘conuering’ and installed democracies Ironically or sadly three thousand years later we still fail to see the irony of ‘spreading democracy’ and we see ourselves falling into the same trap as the Athenians by thinking we can save the world by giving people our ‘superior’ form of government As to the war itself we again see ourselves in the Greeks Realizing a direct confrontational war would have devastating conseuences the Athenians and Spartans fought via many allies in the Delian League and the Peloponnesian League Direct warfare was replaced with economic warfare picking off minor allies one by one going after grain supplies destroying trade routes Strategically the Athenians knew they could never match Spartans on land so the Athenians walled off Athens and imported grain from their Empire to keep Athens fed The war became a contest of attrition as to how each side could eliminate its sources of wealth The Athenians tried to eliminate Spartan supplies in Sicily and launched a massive campaign in Sicily This weakened Athens considerably and laid the foundation for the Spartans to eliminate their grain supply in the Aegean After almost 30 years of warfare the Athenian hubris finally brought it into the submission of Sparta But we also see so many lessons in this the 30 years of warfare weakened the Greek states so much that they were ‘softened’ up for the onslaught of Philip Alexander and the Macedonian Empire Finally the Peloponnesian War is an object lesson for democracies and republics to ensure they elect people of integrity and virtue Pericles was the First Athenian the man who was loved by the Athenians and sacrificed everything for the good of Athens Pericles’ funeral oration is on par with the Gettysburg Address a true statement of living democratically “instead of looking on discussion as a stumbling block in the way of action we think it an indispensable preliminary to any wise action at all” His passion was making Athens a better place and he suffered for it Unfortunately Pericles died and in the war’s latter stages an Athenian named Alcibiades came to leadership Alcibiades had one interest himself A known philanderer and double crosser Alcibiades is not the statesmen but really one who embodied all the negative connotations of the word politician Alcibiades convinced Athens to undertake the Sicilian expedition then defected when he was called up on charges Alcibiades perhaps gave the Spartans some inside knowledge to doom Athens but he once again defected from Sparta when he got the Spartan king’s wife pregnant He tried a turn with the Persians and was once again accepted by the Athenians only to wither in the aftermath of the lack of resources left with Athens due to the defeat in Sicily How might history and Athens’s course have changed had Pericles stayed alive or had Alcibiades been like Pericles? We might never know but like ancient Greece democracies and republics cannot long endure leaders without integrity Without integrity the whole democratic enterprise is a fiction an exercise in rhetoric while the oligarchs give lip service to fine oration and work behind the scenes for only themselves

  3. says:

    Even tucidides would enjoy this And very well put into context

  4. says:

    I am excited to get back into the history A few books of fiction and i find my self happily back here soaking up realityI am on lecture 18 Fascinating I like how it is coming along Very well done Fascinating The total picture over the decades is just amazing Great read Long read and one that will need to be read a couple of times to have it all sink in

  5. says:

    A bit too pro Sparta but otherwise pretty good and detailed

  6. says:

    This is the second Great Courses lecture series I've listened to the other was on Plato's Republic and they were both interesting well organized and professionally delivered

  7. says:

    36 30 minute audio lectures along with a 272 page syllabus Thucydides an Athenian generalhistorian living at the time of the war provides the history for much of these lectures but Dr Harl brings the exuisite details to life For those considering buying this series either go with the video presentation or listen to the audio augmented with online maps and GoogleEarthyou will need to know the area in order appreciate the action And there is a lot of action The good professor lays a firm grounding for the long war between Sparta and her allies and Athens and her league Delian League providing character sketches for the city states and the leaders who gave them their personalitiesfrom Cimon in Athens to Leonidas in Sparta Then the lectures shift to the recounting of the the war's battles strategies and characters both heroic and tragic no wonder many Greek Tragedies were written during this period of time With Athens at her zenith under Pericles and Sparta Corinth and Thebes worried about Athens hegemony or the Athenians getting too full of themselves the war breaks out on a distant island Corfu and battles begin around Attica in 431 BCE What follows next is historyhistory in its finest formAnd then there's Alcibiadesthe most famous non famous character of Hellenic history He might well have won the war for the Athenians had he not whacked a few phalluses phalli? off statues of Hermes or knocked up the King of Sparta's wife or switched sides at least three time'he coulda been a contenda' There should be movie about this guyGreat stuff Wonderful detail Great delivery of Thucydides' historyWait for a sale and a couponbut don't wait too long

  8. says:

    Wonderful course really enjoyed it throughout Being a Greek native speaker pronunciation of names hit me as very weird in the start who the hell are Αλσιμπαηντης Θουσιίτιντης and Μπράσιντας? but you get used to it uickly Overall analysis and delivery of the course are of the greatest standard and the lecturer is very capable of capturing and keeping your attention This is the second course of Prof Harl I am listening too the other was Alexander the Great and I can highly recommend bothTrue there are some inaccuracies and simplifications sure there is some historical sensationalism to spicy things up but all these to a much lesser degree than what we are nowadays used to expect from popular history material

  9. says:

    Pretty interesting Dr Harl definitely has a view on what he thinks the Spartan role was in winning and I think the non standard view is refreshing because he provides lots of interesting details to support his claim Definitely worth the listen if you're interested in or otherwise studying the topic

  10. says:

    I listened to this audio book in parallel to reading 'The Pelopponesean War' It gave me a lot of background and extra contents which made reading the book even interesting Mr Harls enthousiastic presentation together with his roaring voice made this a very enjoyable learning experience

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