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Hite people make when challenged racially white fragility is characterized by emotions such as anger fear and guilt and by behaviors including argumentation and silence These behaviors in turn function to reinstate white racial euilib. Half a century after the Civil Rights movement vast disparities exist between blacks and whites in America First and foremost these group ineualities are caused by deep historical trauma created by white racism and racist policies aimed against black persons and black culture If slavery and Jim Crow caused a gaping wound Civil Rights stitched it up; but underneath the wound still festers How does this wound – the entrenched ineuities between blacks and whites in America – continue to existDoes the answer to that uestion exist I have read and heard a variety of black thinkers try to answer it as they look through different windows upon the situation They have examined welfare affirmative action the black cultural prohibition against “acting white” and being studious the victim mentality the war on drugs the “prison industrial complex” school ineuality voter suppression police brutality and gun violence All of these current realities take place in a nation in which blacks overall have much less wealth than whites because of the historical legacies of racist policies that forced blacks off any road to financial success Any one of these situations is dizzyingly complex Functioning together they and no doubt other factors produce this vast reality that we call racial ineuity There is no way that any one person can understand it all It is a mountain of pain tragedy and injustice Overwhelmed one seeks a way to go forth in one’s thinking one or two foundational principles that will allow one to help ameliorate the situation or at least not make it worse Enter Robin DiAngelo White Fragility is an explanation of Robin DiAngelo’s invention of the same name an idea that seeks to explain why it is “so difficult to have conversations about race with white people” in hopes that examining this will get whites to the point where they can do their part to dismantle systemic racism Her book stinks Never mind that White Fragility is based entirely on anecdotal evidence DiAngelo’s own experiences and that of her African American acuaintances vast false assumptions stunningly faulty reasoning zero sumus and them thinking purely ideological almost religious zealotry and laughably contradictory strictures Never mind that DiAngelo seems to believe that guilt ridden navel gazing is an effective tool for change Never mind that she speaks for all people of color saying that racism is a personal scourge “247” they don’t all believe that Never mind that she is the white savior extraordinaire who views all black people as victims always and only whites as powerful agents Never mind that she encourages whites to patronize blacks in daily interaction humoring them with mea culpas and never arguing as euals never challenging Never mind that she hopes to combat racism using racist tools – racial stereotyping and racial prejudice Never mind that she decries badgood dualism racist – bad nonracist – good even as she all unwittingly pushes her own badgood dualism fragility – bad stamina – good And just don’t even bother being annoyed frustrated or aghast at the way she scorns the human emotions of white people – she and all her white friends will only call you “fragile” and laugh that their circular reasoning was proven rightNever mind all that The main reason this book stinks is that it focuses the attention on the wrong problem one that has very little evidence to support its effects The problem that DiAngelo sees as the fount of all modern black misery is modern white racism Careful though – she does not use the dictionary definition of racism which is a belief in one’s own racial superiority and hostility towards people of other colors and races – what we can also call racial animus Racism according to DiAngelo and her ilk is this mysterious essence this inner miasma that inhabits every white person and no one else The everyday interactions between whites and blacks soaked with this inherent bias is what produces the ineuities we see Racism and whiteness are identical in her book So – the fatherless African American family If we are to believe Robin DiAngelo it’s caused by your shadow thoughts white people The much poorer health outcomes for blacks on average That’s on you O guilty one The fact that homicide is the #1 killer of young black men You guessed it it’s all to do with your secret “knowledge” that your life is better the way things are The fact that those homicide victims are being killed by other young black men You are a racist for even bringing up that fact Don’t worry though all white people are racist Just admit it and all problems will be solvedI don’t know what to think about the fact that White Fragility is a bestseller with so many glowing reviews I guess unfettered ideology is attractive I’m very very sorry that anyone believes what Robin DiAngelo says People please I beg you If you want to make the world a better place study policy Understand that it is very complex and full of unintended conseuences Examine data uestion assumptions Don’t take this stuff on faith; it’s too important Challenge both liberal and conservative racial orthodoxy Think past the labels – treat yourself and others as human beings and individuals Regard yourself and all others as a

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Rium and prevent any meaningful cross racial dialogue In this in depth exploration anti racist educator Robin DiAngelo examines how white fragility develops how it protects racial ineuality and what can be done to engage constructivel. An excellent powerful book I would recommend to all white people It scares me a bit to write that because I imagine some white people may take offense to that statement an emotional reaction Robin DiAngelo discusses in the book and at the same time I stand by it I will write a little about this book’s high uality though I want to start with a personal story that may help explain why this book means a lot to meAround a year ago I called a white woman colleague out on a behavior of hers that involved racism and colonization Before I did so I tried very hard to make sure that I delivered my concern in a gentle and affirming way I put in extra effort to validate her as a person and I acted even nicer than perhaps I should have felt obligated to This white woman asked me to meet in person after I emailed her my concern and because I had trusted her I agreed to this meetingIn this meeting this white woman displayed the exact set of behaviors DiAngelo describes in this book – white fragility She said that she felt offended and hurt that I would accuse her of behaving in a colonizingracist way She said that no one in her life had ever or would ever call her out on this behavior She said that I acted “aggressively” and that I should have “trusted” her instead of blaming her I want to reiterate that throughout this in person meeting I tried again and again to placate her with gentle reassurances while standing my ground Still she said that she felt hurt and centered her feelings over mineAfter this meeting I felt devastated I walked to my office shut the door and practiced a lot of deep breathing to calm down I felt so misunderstood and tone policed – I had just tried to offer this white woman gentle feedback on a problematic behavior and she acted as if I had attacked her Luckily I was able to reach out to my friends both people of color and white friends who validated my experience and I read a ton of articles on tone policing to understand that other people of color especially black women undergo the same discriminatory behavior I share this experience for the specific purpose of highlighting why I feel so grateful for Robin DiAngelo Due to this incident and others there are times where I feel fearful of sharing my true self and my authentic reactions around white people because a lot of white people practice tone policing and white fragility DiAngelo names these behaviors and explains how they hurt people of color She breaks down the common ways white people collude in white supremacy the problematic nature of the goodbad binary in relation to racism and common racial triggers for white people Here is a uote I appreciated about why white fragility acts as a form of bullying ”White fragility functions as a form of bullying; I am going to make it so miserable for you to confront me – no matter how diplomatically you try to do so – that you will simply back off give up and never raise the issue again White fragility keeps people of color in line and ‘in their place’ In this way it is a powerful form of white racial control Social power is not fixed; it is constantly challenged and needs to be maintained We might think of the triggers of white fragility discussed in chapter 7 as challenges to white power and control and of white fragility as the means to end the challenge and maintain that power and control”I know that I should not applaud DiAngelo for doing the work that all white people should do and again I feel grateful to know that there are white people who will do the work of racial justice Allies matter For better or worse white people listen to fellow white people than they listen to people of color when it comes to racism so we need white allies to show up to help dismantle white supremacy Reading this book validated the experiences I have undergone as a person of color and helped reassure me that while there are a lot of white people who will hurt me like the white woman in the incident described above there are others hopefully who will use their privilege to fight for people of color Here is another uote about how emotions are political and related to issues of social justice ”Many of us see emotions as naturally occurring But emotions are political in two key ways First our emotions are shaped by our biases and beliefs our cultural frameworks For example if I believe – consciously or unconsciously – that it is normal and appropriate for men to express anger but not women I will have very different emotional responses to men’s and women’s expressions of anger I might see a man who expresses anger as competent and in charge and may feel respect for him while I see a woman who expresses anger as childish and out of control and may feel contempt for her If I believe that only bad people are racist I will feel hurt offended and shamed when an unaware racist assumption of mine is pointed out If I instead believe that having racist assumptions is inevitable but possible to change I will feel gratitude when an unaware racist assumption is pointed out; now I am aware of and can change that assumption In this way emotions are not natural; they are the result of the frameworks we are using to make sense of social relations And of course social relations are political Our emotions are also

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The New York Times best selling book exploring the counterproductive reactions white people have when their assumptions about race are challenged and how these reactions maintain racial ineualityReferring to the defensive moves that w. Skip this book entirely and read Caste by Isabel WilkersonIt covers much of the same info and is considerably better researchedThis book is written by a white person for other whitesMost of what she writes is common sense but no doubt useful for white folks struggling to not feel attacked when racism is discussedI was annoyed at a remark about 21% in where the author points out that she isn't a fan of Black history month or Black firsts The authors direct uote is 'I am not against Black History Month But it should be celebrated in a way that doesn’t reinforce whiteness The subtext is that Robinson finally had what it took to play with whites as if no black athlete before him was strong enough to compete at that level Imagine if instead the story went something like this “Jackie Robinson the first black man whites allowed to play major league baseball” This implies that Black History Month reinforces whiteness which is a bullshit claim What this demonstrates is that the author doesn't understand Black History month and further doesn't understand that white people are not ever under any circumstances ever entitled to an opinion on Black Culture or Community Her criticism on what black folks create for themselves is irrelevant racially insensitive and out of pocket I agree with her that Black firsts should be presented as finally white people stop being so racist and let this Black person participate I'd argue with her that's what Black folk already understand to be the context Since Black History month is for us white folks misconstruing or misunderstanding the context is not important Which is why the author should not offer white opinions on what Black folks create to celebrate themselves it has no white context So if you're not Black you won't get it and you don't need to It's not for you Stay in your fucking laneEdited to addIf you are white and the previous paragraph about the authors opinion on 'Black firsts' bothers you please do not comment on it; I did not misunderstand the author I don't care if that bit was particularly helpful to you please don't comment with the exact uote to tell me I misread it All of those responses are expressions of your own white fragility If you want to see how I respond to such uestions do read the comment section as I have replied to this repeatedly SighOtherwise good ice breaker for whites This uickly needs to be followed up by real facts provided by Black folks Caste The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson would be my suggestionNow you know why you feel sensitive and why you don't need to here's the history you benefit from and the effect it has on those who do not benefit so you doEdited to add an expanded suggested reading listCaste The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel WilkersonSettlers The Mythology of the White Proletariat by J SakaiBlack and British by David OlusogaSo You Want To Talk About Race by Ijeoma OluoWhen They Call You A Terrorist by Patrisse Khan CullorsThe New Jim Crow by Michelle AlexanderWhite Rage by Carol AndersonHow We Get Free by Keeanga Yamahtta TaylorThe Price for their Pound of Flesh by Daina Ramey BerryWhy I'm No Longer Talking to White People about Race by Reni Edo LodgeWell that escalated uickly by Franchesca RamseyMedical Apartheid by Harriet A WashingtonThe Fire Next Time by James BaldwinThe History of White People by Nell Irvin PainterAlgorithms of Oppression by Safiya Umoja NobleBlack Resistance White Law by Mary Frances BerrySundown Towns by James LoewenFreedom is a Constant Struggle by Angela DavisA Terrible Thing to Waste Environmental Racism and Its Assault on the American Mind by Harriet A WashingtonStamped from the Beginning by Ibram X KendiFYI feel free to copy paste or SS and share with credit


About the Author: Robin DiAngelo

Robin J DiAngelo is an American academic lecturer and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies She formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University and is currently an Affiliate Associate Professor of Education at the University of Washington in Seattle She is known for her work pertaining to white fragili



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  1. says:

    I began reading this book with the assumption that I'd get a better understanding of why it's so hard to talk to other white people about race Maybe there'd be a couple things I needed to be aware of in myself but all in all this would be a book about other white people Well Damn if I wasn't wrong Right in the beginning Robin DiAngelo knocked me off of my why I'm not racist pedestal She called me out in the very beginning by suggesting that I the reader was probably sitting there thinking of all the ways I am not racist Bam bam BAM Down I went How predictable we white people are even when we think we're not Even when we are certain we're not racist Even when we think we're different from other white people How predictable I am In order to get anywhere with racism we first need to be willing to look at all the ways we each white person uphold and perpetuate racism My sitting there reassuring myself that I am an exception and these x y z are the reasons to prove I am not all but ascertained that I was not going to learn anything or enough from this book I am so grateful that Ms DiAngelo began this way Did it make me uncomfortable? Hell yeh it did Believe me I was sitting there suirming biting my lower lip and almost wanting to just not read the book at all However I knew that the fact that it made me uncomfortable was the biggest reason I needed to read this book Not so I could get insight into other white people but to get insight into myself To point out my flaws and uncover the ways racism manifests itself through my words and actionsRobin DiAngelo begins by explaining exactly what racism is and why it is that most white people are so afraid of being seen as racist Explains why we put all our energy into proving we're not I found the definitions she used to be incredibly helpful•Prejudice is pre judgment•Discrimination is action based on prejudice•Racism is a far reaching system that functions independently from the intentions or self images of individual actors It develops when a racial group’s collective prejudice is backed by the power of legal authority and institutional control•Aversive racism is a manifestation of racism that well intentioned people who see themselves as educated and progressive are likely to exhibitConfusing these terms and thinking that racism is only an intentional act of discrimination leads us to believe that we are exempt from racism we are not racist and thus ensures that we will do nothing to change It protects our biases because denying that we have them ensures that we won’t examine or change themEvery aspect of Western culture is based on white superiority It is backed by authority and institutional control I would say especially so in the United States When racism and racist thought are rooted so deeply into our culture it is the norm rather than an aberration Feedback is key to our ability to recognize and repair our inevitable and often unaware collusion We are conditioned into racism and a white supremacist worldview Thus rather than focusing our energy into convincing ourselves and others that we are not racist we need to focus that energy on confronting our own racist tendencies and ideas As Ms DiAngelo points out We do have them and people of color already know we have them; our efforts to prove otherwise are not convincingI think this is an incredibly important book Though it is very basic and rudimentary and repetitive at times this book is a crucial starting point It demands we look honestly at ourselves If we are against racism and truly want change we have to first start with ourselves I cannot change my behaviour or thoughts if I am certain I am without blame How then can I hope to change an entire system? I need to be open to criticism without becoming defensive Is it comfortable to do so? Nope absolutely not But I can deal with a bit of discomfort especially in light of all the pain that people of colour have endured and still endure It is imperative that I honestly examine myself; it is not going to kill me but racism does kill people of colour White fragility functions tokeep people of color from challenging racism in order to avoid white wrath In turn not challenging white people on racism upholds the racial order and whites’ position within that order I implore all white people to read this book even if you are certain you are not racist ESPECIALLY if you are certain you are not racist Let's all work on changing ourselves and then perhaps much needed change can take place in our society and in our judicial systems It is our responsibility to be less fragile and to finally listen to people of colour and be open to examining our flaws and biases There is so much I could write about including the things I discovered about myself reading this book but instead I will finally end this lengthy review and encourage you to read the book And after that read books by people of color Only by listening to those who are on the receiving end of racism can we bring about effective change I have found it much useful to think of myself as on a continuum Racism is so deeply woven into the fabric of our society that I do not see myself escaping from that continuum in my lifetime But I can continually seek to move further along it I am not in a fixed position on the continuum; my position is dictated by what I am actually doing at a given time Conceptualizing myself on an active continuum changes the uestion from whether I am or am not racist to a much constructive uestion Am I actively seeking to interrupt racism in this context? And perhaps even importantly how do I know?


  2. says:

    Skip this book entirely and read Caste by Isabel WilkersonIt covers much of the same info and is considerably better researchedThis book is written by a white person for other whitesMost of what she writes is common sense but no doubt useful for white folks struggling to not feel attacked when racism is discussedI was annoyed at a remark about 21% in where the author points out that she isn't a fan of Black history month or Black firsts The authors direct uote is 'I am not against Black History Month But it should be celebrated in a way that doesn’t reinforce whiteness The subtext is that Robinson finally had what it took to play with whites as if no black athlete before him was strong enough to compete at that level Imagine if instead the story went something like this “Jackie Robinson the first black man whites allowed to play major league baseball” This implies that Black History Month reinforces whiteness which is a bullshit claim What this demonstrates is that the author doesn't understand Black History month and further doesn't understand that white people are not ever under any circumstances ever entitled to an opinion on Black Culture or Community Her criticism on what black folks create for themselves is irrelevant racially insensitive and out of pocket I agree with her that Black firsts should be presented as finally white people stop being so racist and let this Black person participate I'd argue with her that's what Black folk already understand to be the context Since Black History month is for us white folks misconstruing or misunderstanding the context is not important Which is why the author should not offer white opinions on what Black folks create to celebrate themselves it has no white context So if you're not Black you won't get it and you don't need to It's not for you Stay in your fucking laneEdited to addIf you are white and the previous paragraph about the authors opinion on 'Black firsts' bothers you please do not comment on it; I did not misunderstand the author I don't care if that bit was particularly helpful to you please don't comment with the exact uote to tell me I misread it All of those responses are expressions of your own white fragility If you want to see how I respond to such uestions do read the comment section as I have replied to this repeatedly SighOtherwise good ice breaker for whites This uickly needs to be followed up by real facts provided by Black folks Caste The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson would be my suggestionNow you know why you feel sensitive and why you don't need to here's the history you benefit from and the effect it has on those who do not benefit so you doEdited to add an expanded suggested reading listCaste The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel WilkersonSettlers The Mythology of the White Proletariat by J SakaiBlack and British by David OlusogaSo You Want To Talk About Race by Ijeoma OluoWhen They Call You A Terrorist by Patrisse Khan CullorsThe New Jim Crow by Michelle AlexanderWhite Rage by Carol AndersonHow We Get Free by Keeanga Yamahtta TaylorThe Price for their Pound of Flesh by Daina Ramey BerryWhy I'm No Longer Talking to White People about Race by Reni Edo LodgeWell that escalated uickly by Franchesca RamseyMedical Apartheid by Harriet A WashingtonThe Fire Next Time by James BaldwinThe History of White People by Nell Irvin PainterAlgorithms of Oppression by Safiya Umoja NobleBlack Resistance White Law by Mary Frances BerrySundown Towns by James LoewenFreedom is a Constant Struggle by Angela DavisA Terrible Thing to Waste Environmental Racism and Its Assault on the American Mind by Harriet A WashingtonStamped from the Beginning by Ibram X KendiFYI feel free to copy paste or SS and share with credit


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    This is absolute geniusLet's start with a book is it a book really? Content and page count it's a pamphlet with a subtitle that dismisses any logical argument or counterpoint to the content of the pamphlet as being 'afraid to talk about' the subject Let's then publish the pamphlet at a time when we're surrounded by white people who can't shut up about racism and are fighting tooth and nail over who can appear to be the most enlightened 'woke' white people We'll finish the pamphlet by saying we'll never be done with racism and we can only ever try to learn about it The perpetuating of the racism industry Thank goodness we have such brave authors as this one to pen these works and profit from the proliferation of the idea that white people have an intrinsic benefit solely from the color of their skin and that brown people I think she means African brown people specifically since Indian and other dark skinned people aren't really addressed based on skin color alone no other factors at all are at a disadvantage Literally skin color is the only factor hereWe then define racism not by what literally every dictionary defines it as but by something that can't be refuted citing nonsensical examples it's racist for a white woman to be emotionally distraught over the shooting of a black male BTW and catering to the emotionally unsound and the people who thrive on consoling the emotionally unsoundIt appears the author is unaware of a concept that most of us learn around middle school Correlation causation Are black folks as a population in the US doing as well as white folks as a population? The numbers say probably not Is that solely because of their melanin concentration? The author would have you believe yes I personally would posit the radical idea that your life outcome is determined by an infinite number of factors led by socioeconomic status uality of parenting and personal drive and that what color you happen to have is so far down that list that it may as well not even exist speaking in terms of the last 50 years or so To make an example of this follow these hypotheticals of who has advantage all other factors being eual besides what's mentioned White person growing up in poverty or brown person growing up in upper middle class family White person growing up in poverty with single parent who isn't committed to parenting or brown person growing up in poverty with two parents trying to make the most for their kidss White person growing up in poverty with no personal drive or brown person growing up in poverty who is motivated and willing to achieveHas the point been made? The author spends the entire pamphlet espousing 'binary bad' as it pertains to whether a racist person is goodbad but seems to cling to the notion that what happens to you in life is based on a binary of skin being white not whiteAre authors movie directors politicians executives etc under represented by brown skinned people in the US? Certainly looks like it According to the author that would be literally only because of their skin color The fact that the uestion of how many brown skinned people with the proper combination of desire aptitude and grit attempt to hold these positions isn't asked is mind boggling to someone who approaches topics rationally rather than emotionallyWould you like to know why white people get 'defensive' or 'withdraw' from conversations about racism? Perhaps it's because we're being continually beaten over the head with 'white privilege' and 'we live in such a racist society' and we're tired My list of problems with this work could go on indefinitely I can't think of a single idea posed in it that isn't wracked with poor logic bathed in the need to cater to someone But I'm just feeling guilty about my whiteness and I'm afraid to talk about racism soBut this pamphlet did elicit two firsts from me First one star rating I go through a LOT of bad books how is this possible? and first review so she's doing something right I hope she can ride the racism train to the bank into eternity it's a real cash cow these daysWould recommend to all white people who need to validate their perceived enlightenment and for people who have no concept of rational thought statistics or correlationcausation And people who absolutely love victimhood One editaddition to make At one point in the pamphlet the author claims to have studied white people's reactions to discussion of racism for uite a long time I can't remember how long exactly my brain has thankfully purged most of my memories of it She goes on to say white people are so predictable in their reactions either denial dismissal or anger and uses this predictability as 'evidence' of both their own racism and their 'fear' of talking about it Well I'd like to suggest we swap out the word 'racist' and put in 'pedophile' instead Then we can spend a whole bunch of time calling white people pedophiles and monitoring their reactions This guy denied being a pedophile that lady over there simply walked away from the discussion that guy in the corner actually got angry and defensive Since we predicted their reactions we know the claim to be true right? Okay done now


  4. says:

    I'm undecided as to how to rate this book On the one hand it's a fantastic first step for folks just becoming aware of racism But personally as a POC who has been engaging with these concepts for years now I found it very rudimentary Which I can't really criticize it for It's meant to be rudimentary But it meant that my reading experience was both uick and a little dull Which is no fault of the book I will say that I was introduced to some sociological concepts that I hadn't been familiar with which I appreciated But otherwise it's Racism 101 for White Folks and it's explicitly tailored to that purpose And again it's a first step This is a short book that tries to cover a lot of topics uickly and easily It's not enough but it's a fantastic start What I will say about the book from a objective standpoint is that I wish examples had been included DiAngelo focuses a lot on theory which of course is important but she also repeats herself a lot I think a useful approach would have been to talk about specific examples of white fragility that she encountered in her workshops and break down the various problematic aspects It was when she spoke about specific encounters that I was most engaged and I think her points came across much clearly when she used those examples So overall a great book if you're just getting started learning about structural racism but also a good refresher if you're already somewhat familiar


  5. says:

    Half a century after the Civil Rights movement vast disparities exist between blacks and whites in America First and foremost these group ineualities are caused by deep historical trauma created by white racism and racist policies aimed against black persons and black culture If slavery and Jim Crow caused a gaping wound Civil Rights stitched it up; but underneath the wound still festers How does this wound – the entrenched ineuities between blacks and whites in America – continue to exist?Does the answer to that uestion exist? I have read and heard a variety of black thinkers try to answer it as they look through different windows upon the situation They have examined welfare affirmative action the black cultural prohibition against “acting white” and being studious the victim mentality the war on drugs the “prison industrial complex” school ineuality voter suppression police brutality and gun violence All of these current realities take place in a nation in which blacks overall have much less wealth than whites because of the historical legacies of racist policies that forced blacks off any road to financial success Any one of these situations is dizzyingly complex Functioning together they and no doubt other factors produce this vast reality that we call racial ineuity There is no way that any one person can understand it all It is a mountain of pain tragedy and injustice Overwhelmed one seeks a way to go forth in one’s thinking one or two foundational principles that will allow one to help ameliorate the situation or at least not make it worse Enter Robin DiAngelo White Fragility is an explanation of Robin DiAngelo’s invention of the same name an idea that seeks to explain why it is “so difficult to have conversations about race with white people” in hopes that examining this will get whites to the point where they can do their part to dismantle systemic racism Her book stinks Never mind that White Fragility is based entirely on anecdotal evidence DiAngelo’s own experiences and that of her African American acuaintances vast false assumptions stunningly faulty reasoning zero sumus and them thinking purely ideological almost religious zealotry and laughably contradictory strictures Never mind that DiAngelo seems to believe that guilt ridden navel gazing is an effective tool for change Never mind that she speaks for all people of color saying that racism is a personal scourge “247” they don’t all believe that Never mind that she is the white savior extraordinaire who views all black people as victims always and only whites as powerful agents Never mind that she encourages whites to patronize blacks in daily interaction humoring them with mea culpas and never arguing as euals never challenging Never mind that she hopes to combat racism using racist tools – racial stereotyping and racial prejudice Never mind that she decries badgood dualism racist – bad nonracist – good even as she all unwittingly pushes her own badgood dualism fragility – bad stamina – good And just don’t even bother being annoyed frustrated or aghast at the way she scorns the human emotions of white people – she and all her white friends will only call you “fragile” and laugh that their circular reasoning was proven rightNever mind all that The main reason this book stinks is that it focuses the attention on the wrong problem one that has very little evidence to support its effects The problem that DiAngelo sees as the fount of all modern black misery is modern white racism Careful though – she does not use the dictionary definition of racism which is a belief in one’s own racial superiority and hostility towards people of other colors and races – what we can also call racial animus Racism according to DiAngelo and her ilk is this mysterious essence this inner miasma that inhabits every white person and no one else The everyday interactions between whites and blacks soaked with this inherent bias is what produces the ineuities we see Racism and whiteness are identical in her book So – the fatherless African American family? If we are to believe Robin DiAngelo it’s caused by your shadow thoughts white people The much poorer health outcomes for blacks on average? That’s on you O guilty one The fact that homicide is the #1 killer of young black men? You guessed it it’s all to do with your secret “knowledge” that your life is better the way things are The fact that those homicide victims are being killed by other young black men? You are a racist for even bringing up that fact Don’t worry though all white people are racist Just admit it and all problems will be solvedI don’t know what to think about the fact that White Fragility is a bestseller with so many glowing reviews I guess unfettered ideology is attractive I’m very very sorry that anyone believes what Robin DiAngelo says People please I beg you If you want to make the world a better place study policy Understand that it is very complex and full of unintended conseuences Examine data uestion assumptions Don’t take this stuff on faith; it’s too important Challenge both liberal and conservative racial orthodoxy Think past the labels – treat yourself and others as human beings and individuals Regard yourself and all others as agents – agents of personal and political change agents of compassion and empathy Please don’t waste your time on the racial prejudices and double standards of identity zealots like Robin DiAngelo Examples of contradictory strictures White people must be vulnerable White people must not show their feelings White people must not become silent White people should be silent White people must not leave the room when they’re upset White people must leave the room when they’re upset


  6. says:

    The book raises striking and specific points about how as whites we have biases toward race while pretending we are colorblind She states specific examples and outlays practical way forward Most of the lower star ratings of this book seem to be exhibiting the exact fragility she outlines and really only prove to drive her point home furtherEven they seem to ignore the very clear outlining in the book of difference between personal and systemic racism That the way forward is to stop taking things personally when accused of being a part of the problem and instead to look to ways to contribute to the dismantiling of systems in place Few whites are racist but all whites participate in racist systems It's on us to learn to step into the discomfort and let healing begin That's what this book addresses


  7. says:

    this book is currently at the top of the new york times best seller list it’s been there for eleven weeks straight right in front of several other non fiction books about race and racism written by people of color it holds an average 45 rating here on goodreads with 32k ratingsit’s also written by a white womanyes well bear with methe arguments in favor of that are about how white people accept criticism and callouts way better from other white people they might even sit down to listen and learn heck robin diangelo makes that very point in this book too and i can already hear people say “but jade isn’t it a good thing that white people are taking the burden of educating each other rather than bothering people of color about this?”yes and no white people are definitely responsible for their own education on these sorts of topics however there is a deeper underlying problem with this particular book and that is thisit is not truly about racism it centers whiteness and whiteness onlysure diangelo gives her readers a uick repetitive Racism 101 class you get to learn about white privilege white fragility white tears white guilt white supremacy and white allyship are you sensing a theme yet? mostly about how white people shouldn’t get so damn defensive all the time and how they shouldn’t make racist jokes in corporate environmentsand that’s itthere is no contextual history there is no explanation nor exploration of the reasons why we live in a racist society nothing about cause and effect there is no discussion on how our racist society is upheld on a daily basis through policy and law and other powerful tools of oppression there is no mention of the collective trauma and pain that racism causes and has caused except for those off hand microaggressions in clean almost sterile corporate settingsnot at any point does this book teach genuine empathy it does not evoke a strong sense of injustice nor does it radicalize or stimulate its reader to the point of antiracist action all it does is teach its reader that they are whiteand even the titular white fragility becomes a toothless annoyance a defensiveness that white people should learn to suppress or control and never a thing that can very often spark actual violence and threat in the daily lives of many people of colori honestly don’t mean to downplay microaggressions; they’re immensely mentally exhausting but reading this book makes it seem as if we as a society are beyond racist violence and legislation and white people merely need to watch what they’re saying to people of color at work i can very easily see the target group of this book reading this and going “is THIS it? is this what people of color get so pissy about?”it also doesn’t help to know that diangelo is a business consultant who’s made it her job to teach other white people about racism and whiteness and profits off of workshops on these topics and from what i’ve been hearing and seeing of those even within this book they come across as just as devoid of any historical context or genuine exploration of harmful stereotypesin the end what this book is about is simply not enoughonly one side of the coin is shown shoveling out a version of ‘racism’ in its most palatable form meant for white consumption it has none of the history none of the trauma and barely any black voices or voices of colori also sincerely doubt whether this book would be enough for white people who go in without any prior knowledge or education on racism if i imagine someone coming in waving their finger around telling me i’m not allowed to do this or that including crying out of empathy without explaining why i’d probably dismiss it right away and be like “well folks looks like i’m fragile after all”which you can see happening here on goodreads too by the way a lot of the 1 star reviews are of exactly that sentimentso no i’m not going to endorse this book on its own it does very little except perhaps infuriate me a great deal such as diangelo casually shitting on black history month and obama’s presidency i mean neither are exempt from criticism at all but i’m really not interested in reading a white woman’s negative comments on these topics while she is 1 preaching to other white people about racism and 2 not giving any CONTEXT for the criticism itselfbecause i doubt the first thing a white person trying to understand racism needs to know is that black history month is bad because it reinforces “the idea that racism in the united states can operate outside white people”anyway if you’re a white person who got something out of this book good for you i guess but this is not the time to study your own whiteness; this is the time to study the history of the world and your country this is the time to sit down and try to grasp the full breadth of what racism is and what it does to people of color by listening to black voices and the voices of people of colorpick up angela davis read james baldwin check out ibram x kendi michelle alexander bell hooks ronald takaki carol anderson educate yourself on actual historical events and blackpoc experiences and leave this white centered corporate workshop for what it is✎ 10 stars


  8. says:

    This is a sometimes interesting yet essentially broken vessel for the author's frustration in dealing with the ignorant and often prejudiced white people who have participated in her diversity seminars The book trolls those participants while purporting to be a learning tool itselfTo a limited extent it is that tool Its chapter on white privilege provides a superb overview Likewise its chapter on the essentially racist character of much US history These lessons can also be found elsewhere including Google Unfortunately its flaws far outweigh its virtues Who is this book for? The audience is clearly liberal whites and masochistic ones at that Why masochistic? Because this book offers no way forward It simply and repeatedly instructs its white readers on why they are racist and will always be racist To learn this lesson is to parrot back what the author has told them while backing it up with facts about American history and white privilege Dialogue and emotional responses from trainees are not just disdained they are seen as pervasive symptoms of racism A person can read this polemic and gain an understanding of white culpability today and throughout history But it provides no impetus to move forward to create actual change The book is a dead end Lessons learned should provide meaningful paths to the future Better paths Paths to protest to repair to dialogue to activism to legislation But White Fragility exists in a vacuum it ignores such potentialities It only scolds If you acknowledge your apparently inherent racism as a white person it has done its job Congratulations racist Now just shut up there is nothing for you to doAs a trainer who trains people of all races to provide peer support to other people of all races; as an individual who identifies variously as mixed race Filipino and white; and as a professional in a leadership position at my agency who wants to encourage openness and reflection from my nervous white colleagues on the topics of racial euity and anti racism this book was utterly useless to me This is a reductive book in all ways15 stars rounded downPROGRESS NOTESuotes from the book are in italics Well I like the forward maybe because I'm mixed race and she seems to be bending over backwards to understand me Multiracial people because they challenge racial constructs and boundaries face uniue challenges in a society in which racial categories have profound meaningBut anyway on to reading some white bashing written by a white person That always amuses me STOP MARK You want to get something from this you need to adjust your bad attitude Keep an open mind Mark LOL I believe that white progressives cause the most daily damage to people of color Um no Liberals progressives like myself are used to being bashed by conservatives Republicans the deplorables but I've always found the most skilled bashers of liberals progressives to be other liberals progressives Such a masochistic breed People with empathy know the softest spots and where to hit the hardest The ignorance of that comment about white progressives sorta took my breath away Not a great start This part is true and I'm seeing this now as I've seen it before in discussions we're currently having at my very progressive agency Being seen racially is a common trigger of white fragility and thus to build our stamina white people must face the first challenge naming our race DiAngelo's definition of Individualism is remarkably self serving Particularly in how she posits it as an ideology that props up racism I think I get where she's coming from she wants white people to focus on one particular trait whiteness and not on how all people are individuals because they are the intersection of many different identities And there's truth to the idea that whites are afforded an individuality that POC are often unable to attain in group settings and in representations in the media But I'm not loving how she refuses to see complexity of identity as a valid way to understand how different people engage with the world and how she would rather look at all whites as simply white Although I understand that not wanting to look at the complexity of individuals means your message will be very easy to package and sell In general DiAngelo is uite comfortable with generalizing she's a sociologist after all But doesn't she realize that she's doing the exact same thing to white people that POC have complained about being done to usthem for approximately forever? And how has that worked out? This feels true If we “look white” we are treated as white in society at large For example people of southern European heritage such as Spanish or Portuguese or from the former Soviet Union are likely to have a stronger sense of ethnic identity than will someone of the same ethnicity whose ancestors have been here for generations Yet although their internal identity may be different if they “pass” as white they will still have a white experience externally If they look white the default assumption will be that they are white and thus they will be responded to as white I do have a challenge with this idea of a white experience because class and other factors are not being taken into consideration Is there a monolithic white experience? I should ask some white people As a mixed race person this sort of tribalism is hard for me to understand But as a half white person perhaps I should just examine my own experiences How often have I passed? And how would I even know absent overt displays of racism towards me? This is ye olde collegiate definition of racism that I actually agree with When I say that only whites can be racist I mean that in the United States only whites have the collective social and institutional power and privilege over people of color People of color do not have this power and privilege over white people Earlier she mentioned that POC can be prejudiced just like whites so that combined with her definition of racism makes sense to me While anyone can pre judge others and discriminate against them racism can only be exhibited by the race that holds the most power But I wonder how she will link this definition to her basic idea that all whites are racist Whiteness rests upon a foundational premise the definition of whites as the norm or standard for human and people of color as a deviation from that norm I've railed against this in various reviews of modern genre novels this white norm that occurs in settings where that doesn't make sense In the novel Sand most explicitly And still I persist in wondering if the majority of the population in a given place is a certain race wouldn't that race always be considered the norm? There's something true and also something so obvious so meaningless about her definition of whiteness She makes an interesting case for white supremacy to be seen as a political system a system that includes everything from government to entertainment If only by her use of stats to illustrate percentages of whites in positions of leadership I can then compare those percentages to the actual percentage of white people in the US which ends up being 87% whites in those positions vs 73% of whites in the US population Food for thought I'm not in love with her example of a white mother shushing a child saying Mommy his skin is black as upholding the idea that black is a disability or less than white Couldn't it be because Mommy doesn't want her kid to be othering another person? I was on board with her definition of aversive racism as the kind of racism although I would actually call it prejudice practiced by people consciously or unconsciously when using coded language to describe black spaces But I'm not so on board with the example of a friend talking about a dangerous neighborhood meaning that that friend had a horror of black spaces I think there is clearly a potential racial corollary there but at the same time this is too simplistic To insist that the description of a neighborhood as dangerous is only about its blackness seems to be a self serving way to turn what is a loaded statement ie potentially prejudiced but also possibly about class systems into a genuinely racist statement So yeah generalizations DiAngelo euates Being careful not to use racial terms or labels when people of color are present with Mimicking “black mannerisms and speech” and with actions like Avoiding contact eg crossing a street or not going to a particular bar or club Using code words to talk negatively about people of color Occasional violence directed at people of color These seem to me to be very different sorts of behavior some being examples of prejudice or racism while others being a lot complex But hell why not call them all examples of racially conscious behavior because that's the book I'm reading The chapter HOW DOES RACE SHAPE THE LIVES OF WHITE PEOPLE? is the most sustained exploration of how white privilege is lived unconsciously that I've read so far in the book Of course the last page diminishes all that came before by engaging in DiAngelo's typically lazy generalizations but for the most part this is really effective I also love the idea of white innocence This all could be useful for me as a trainer except I am almost always training people who identify as leftist and they are usually already fully aware of how they if they are white benefit from being white And so they appreciate my discussion of privilege as a series of handy tips and reminders on how to be a better volunteer person rather than as a launching point for cultural self exploration Because they've already done all that self exploration usually in college and that's why they moved to the Bay Area in the first place Well that and those Big Tech greenbacks of course Gotta make that money if you wanna be a true coastal elite amiright? If as a white person I conceptualize racism as a binary and I place myself on the “not racist” side what further action is reuired of me? No action is reuired because I am not a racist Therefore racism is not my problem; it doesn’t concern me and there is nothing further I need to do This worldview guarantees that I will not build my skills in thinking critically about racism or use my position to challenge racial ineuality I uestion this cause effect Especially in light of the recent protests but also in general It seems to be admonishing binary thinking while actually engaging in it If someone does not consider themselves racist why then does this automatically mean they will not engage in anti racism? Very interesting point about how color blind claims eg I don't see race and color celebrate claims eg I have people of color in my family both function as ways to exempt people from engaging in conversations about racism No person of color whom I’ve met has said that racism isn’t at play in his or her friendships with white people This was a somewhat shocking thing for me to read because this hasn't been my experience at all as a POC Of course I've experienced racism numerous times but not from the words or deeds of actual friends What makes me different from all the POC that DiAngelo has met? Is it because I'm mixed race? Am I just lucky just ignorant just benefiting from my mixed race status or is DiAngelo just stacking the deck? I honestly don't know It's interesting to me that the author has so far to page 112 only provided examples during her experiences as a diversity trainer of people who defiantly oppose what she is teaching them Will there be any examples of her getting through to people how she got through to them how they improved how workplaces became safer spaces for POC etc? Or are all of these examples meant to say that white people will always fail at understanding their racist behavior no matter what or how she tries to teach them? It's a curious use of her real life experiences Is this a purposeful indictment of all white people or an inadvertent indictment of her own methods and ideologies as a diversity trainer? Or maybe she's just shy of talking about her accomplishments Yes let's say that it's a better look Ok page 114 did make me smile with its mordantly amusing story of a young white woman whose co workers were afraid she was having an actual heart attack after being criticized for making certain comments But I still really wish there was a part 2 to that story describing how DiAngelo ended up engaging this melodramatic young woman successfully Did that part 2 ever happen? It would have been useful for me as a trainer and as a colleague interested in proactive dialogue with my white colleagues But I suppose that's not the point of this book which is apparently to just repeatedly provide examples of white fragility Sigh Sweet Jesus now DiAngelo has taken it upon herself to denounce the basic guidelines for building trust in a training as accommodations made to coddle white fragility• Don’t judge• Don’t make assumptions• Speak your truth• Respect I dunno what to even say It's like she perfectly understands white privilege but has no actual comprehension about how to reach people Does she not understand that gathering people in a room and telling them all how wrong they are and will always be is not an effective mechanism for genuine change or understanding? Or that these guidelines have helped POC in trainings to also feel safe enough to express opinions and share experiences? Ugh Ok I was prepared to hate this chapter entitled WHITE WOMEN’S TEARS I've heard about DiAngelo's thoughts on this But it does make some solid points tears and other emotional displays can be a form of manipulation and they can shift focus away from the important topic at hand That said DiAngelo barely acknowledges the most freuent reason women AND MEN cry in these settings because they are experiencing sorrow or pain over something they have learned about themselves or are reacting to a story they are hearing that illustrates a terrible injustice or a painful experience It is like the author does not really want to acknowledge the importance and necessity of empathy as a key to bridging divides Last chapter finally features the book's sole example of a breakthrough from a white person who acknowledges their problematic behavior and gracefully accepts feedback promising to learn from the experience This white person is Robin DiAngelo I assume DiAngelo could think of no other examples to provide LMAO


  9. says:

    An excellent powerful book I would recommend to all white people It scares me a bit to write that because I imagine some white people may take offense to that statement an emotional reaction Robin DiAngelo discusses in the book and at the same time I stand by it I will write a little about this book’s high uality though I want to start with a personal story that may help explain why this book means a lot to meAround a year ago I called a white woman colleague out on a behavior of hers that involved racism and colonization Before I did so I tried very hard to make sure that I delivered my concern in a gentle and affirming way I put in extra effort to validate her as a person and I acted even nicer than perhaps I should have felt obligated to This white woman asked me to meet in person after I emailed her my concern and because I had trusted her I agreed to this meetingIn this meeting this white woman displayed the exact set of behaviors DiAngelo describes in this book – white fragility She said that she felt offended and hurt that I would accuse her of behaving in a colonizingracist way She said that no one in her life had ever or would ever call her out on this behavior She said that I acted “aggressively” and that I should have “trusted” her instead of blaming her I want to reiterate that throughout this in person meeting I tried again and again to placate her with gentle reassurances while standing my ground Still she said that she felt hurt and centered her feelings over mineAfter this meeting I felt devastated I walked to my office shut the door and practiced a lot of deep breathing to calm down I felt so misunderstood and tone policed – I had just tried to offer this white woman gentle feedback on a problematic behavior and she acted as if I had attacked her Luckily I was able to reach out to my friends both people of color and white friends who validated my experience and I read a ton of articles on tone policing to understand that other people of color especially black women undergo the same discriminatory behavior I share this experience for the specific purpose of highlighting why I feel so grateful for Robin DiAngelo Due to this incident and others there are times where I feel fearful of sharing my true self and my authentic reactions around white people because a lot of white people practice tone policing and white fragility DiAngelo names these behaviors and explains how they hurt people of color She breaks down the common ways white people collude in white supremacy the problematic nature of the goodbad binary in relation to racism and common racial triggers for white people Here is a uote I appreciated about why white fragility acts as a form of bullying ”White fragility functions as a form of bullying; I am going to make it so miserable for you to confront me – no matter how diplomatically you try to do so – that you will simply back off give up and never raise the issue again White fragility keeps people of color in line and ‘in their place’ In this way it is a powerful form of white racial control Social power is not fixed; it is constantly challenged and needs to be maintained We might think of the triggers of white fragility discussed in chapter 7 as challenges to white power and control and of white fragility as the means to end the challenge and maintain that power and control”I know that I should not applaud DiAngelo for doing the work that all white people should do and again I feel grateful to know that there are white people who will do the work of racial justice Allies matter For better or worse white people listen to fellow white people than they listen to people of color when it comes to racism so we need white allies to show up to help dismantle white supremacy Reading this book validated the experiences I have undergone as a person of color and helped reassure me that while there are a lot of white people who will hurt me like the white woman in the incident described above there are others hopefully who will use their privilege to fight for people of color Here is another uote about how emotions are political and related to issues of social justice ”Many of us see emotions as naturally occurring But emotions are political in two key ways First our emotions are shaped by our biases and beliefs our cultural frameworks For example if I believe – consciously or unconsciously – that it is normal and appropriate for men to express anger but not women I will have very different emotional responses to men’s and women’s expressions of anger I might see a man who expresses anger as competent and in charge and may feel respect for him while I see a woman who expresses anger as childish and out of control and may feel contempt for her If I believe that only bad people are racist I will feel hurt offended and shamed when an unaware racist assumption of mine is pointed out If I instead believe that having racist assumptions is inevitable but possible to change I will feel gratitude when an unaware racist assumption is pointed out; now I am aware of and can change that assumption In this way emotions are not natural; they are the result of the frameworks we are using to make sense of social relations And of course social relations are political Our emotions are also political because they are often externalized; our emotions drive behaviors that impact other people”Again highly recommended to all white people and also people of color interested in this topic DiAngelo’s writing is clear straightforward and intelligent She analyzes the issue of white fragility with great depth while providing tangible actions white people can take to address this issue I hope white people who read this book will utilize its lessons and apply them to their own lives whether or not anyone else watches I hope that my fellow people of color know that you are not alone in experiencing white fragility and its painful repercussions


  10. says:

    Victim role and defense mechanisms prevent an emancipated and enlightened reappraisal of past and present grievances culminating in worsening of system immanent problems backlashes and indirect and unconscious promotion of racial divide Building mental suppression reflexes fortifications against unwanted truth is a sign of an immature and romantic idealization of one´s ego for the price of being part of the problem The term aversive racism is well chosen it´s exactly the subconscious mechanism many are unwilling to accept as part of their socialization and conditioning an epigenetic factor expanding in those trying to be against prejudices but unwillingly promoting them in a way they don´t even see It´s the misuse of altruism by indirectly enforcing stereotypes belittling minorities and other ethnicities and downplaying the own bias and agenda one deems positive Look at who built Western society what inhuman ideologies they had and think about what that means about the foundations of any system and how much of it is still there under the surface If one isn´t willing to accept it and wants to keep living the illusions while having a privileged life try this one Contrast the reality with a fictional culture built by women for women an ecotopia by environmentalists a techno utopia by futurists etc In none of these cases someone would deny that key elements of the main ideas can be seen in all elements of the culture but in reality of course no thank you inappropriate idea we are over that everything is fine Ignoring own problems worsens them and the older we get the passive aggressive indirect racist mindsets that are often indirectly expressed in economic and political contexts come to mind Whenever a person is insecure about not possibly promoting ideologies that have integrated exploitative and evil elements one can easily find cozy reassurance of the righteousness of one's behavior thanks to echo chambers and media exponentiating the hypnotizing sound of all these decent people who can´t all be wrong And then bam someone dares to tell the truth about such self deception mechanisms that don´t just include individual blinders but many other good willing people with the same opinion friends family that of course also don´t deem themselves part of the problem and the natural reaction is of course extreme outrage pure white fragility „I an activist for years decades having so many friends of all ethnicities etc yada should be a bigoted opportunistic enforcer of racist ideas? You harbinger are wrong and should be ashamed for making me feel bad about your fake history news And I am activating my being offended mode because now I just feel and can´t think any“ It´s exactly what I´ve experienced with many other problems privileged white people don´t have to deal with and build illusions ivory towers and excuses for their inactions and stubborn behavior around theminstead In Europe precisely Austria it´s done with refugees the economic system nazi past sexism conservatism etc that way People have their unbalanced strange implemented opinions they mainly built on news media friends and family instead of book and science and repeat bias mantras and illogical and bad explanations As soon as someone points the finger on the hard real facts they react this way get aggressive change topic do as if they didn´t mean it that way behave like expected by good extremists and fanatics The refuge of pseudointellectual wanna be experts that keep repeating whatever their social media feed drips in their mind even infecting people that should know better Even well meaning people who are active in charity organizations NGOs are prone to this blind spots some strange examples I´ve tried out Try talking to environmentalist about positive aspects of NGOs to human rights activists about dehumanizing elements of our whole system and how it indirectly promotes circles of violence instead of just helping whistleblowers and journalists to hard working people who invest much of their money in destructive useless consumerism to green party membersor to anti racism and eual rights groups about this Forget it they will act like kids immediate defiant phase activation lalala don´t want to hear Honestly part of my misanthropy is that I´ve lost interest in and respecting of many people who are so blind to how they have been instrumentalized to greenwash corporate responsibility PR camouflaged as real activism without even recognizing and absorb the propaganda as part of their identity thinking we have reached the end of history attacking anything uestioning their distorted and self aggrandizing world view They are lost stranded in a mixture of with by the legitimates their disturbing views with fringe science Their whole personality is built on nothing than the soft washed trivialized indirect fallout of anachronistic ideals still secretly metastasizing and growing with any descendant of see no evil hear no evil speak no evil At a moment in history where anyone could build an objective opinion by using the amazing possibilities of wikis apps independent media and progressive nonfiction authors instead of reading the same repetitive everything is fine fairy tale unicorn rainbow BS Instead they keep being used by forces they don´t want to be real whose main interest is to divide and rule by fueling any kind of conflict between social groups to keep their status It made me hyper sceptical regarding many humanities and soft sciences they use as arguments too It also took me some time over the last decade to go chronologically through the feelings of disbelief anger something close to hate one of the rare emotions I feel next to flow hungry the other ry not sorry and sleepy motivation to try to change people I am still laughing about this one repeating of the first circle to end up with cold cynic apathy for disinterest in and avoidance of the overwhelming majority of the population But it luckily fueled my belief in the youth and the next generation instead Power resetting people´s mindsets is very difficult and if it´s not combined with an extreme ideology and even then it´s close to impossible to make people accept that they´ve been wrong over years or decades but with thinking of themselves as progressive founding mothers and fathers of a better future it gets close to impossible They´ve invested time heart blood belief studying debating in becoming the person and identify they are and I don´t believe many of them will change because it includes many other aspects of their agenda and ideology they would have to reevaluate and revise key elements something too brutal and hard See what I just did I indirectly defended white fragility it´s truly a hellish circle And an extremely ridiculous one in the eyes of discriminated groups and minorities it´s a kind of black comedy mentally instable person gag where the wealthy carefree lucky ones do as if changing the inhuman system that made them rich and some of their opinions is something unfair painful and gruesome to them A wiki walk can be as refreshing to the mind as a walk through nature in this completely overrated real life outside books


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